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kapl · 21.05.2006, 10:22

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Sind diese Links aus der Wiki englisch schon bekannt?
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA )

History

According to Simon Wiesenthal, ODESSA was set up in 1946 to aid fugitive Nazis. Other sources, such as many interviews by the ZDF German TV station with former SS men, suggest that ODESSA never was the single world-wide secret organization that Wiesenthal described, but that there were several organizations, both overt and covert (including the CIA and several Latin American governments), that helped ex-SS men.

To some extent whether ODESSA was a criminal conspiracy that protected and smuggled out war criminals or an informal network by which various German and Allied elements protected useful former SS anti-communists from war crimes charges is purely a matter of viewpoint since, short of finding a genuine documentary constitution for it, any facts or actions would fit both descriptions equally.

Long before the ZDF TV network, biographer Gitta Sereny wrote in her 1974 book Into that Darkness (see References below) that the ODESSA network was of minor importance if it existed at all. She attributed the fact that several criminal SS-men could escape due to the post war chaos and the lack of means of the Catholic Church, the Red Cross and the American military to verify the claims of people who came to them for help or were imprisoned. She also wrote that one pro-German bishop called Aloïs Hudal in Rome who knowingly helped several ex-SS men to escape out of Europe must have had some help or permission from other people in the church hierarchy. One of the ex-SS men that he helped is the former commander of the extermination camp at Treblinka, Franz Stangl.

Uki Goñi, in his 2002 book The Real Odessa: Smuggling the Nazis to Perón's Argentina (see References) suggests that Sereny's more complex, less conspiratorial, story is closer to the real truth. The book prompted a US House of Representatives resolution in 2003, urging Argentina to open their hitherto secret documents concerning this matter.

Of particular importance in examining the postwar activities of high-ranking Nazis is Paul Manning's book Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile (Lyle Stuart, Inc., 1980, ISBN 0-8184-0309-8, also available online), which details Martin Bormann's rise to power through the Nazi Party and as Hitler's Chief of Staff. During the war, Manning himself was a correspondent for the fledgling CBS News along with Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite in London, and his reporting and subsequent researches present Bormann's cunning and skill in the organization and planning for the flight of Nazi-controlled capital from Europe during the dimming years of the war (notwithstanding the possibility of Bormann's death in Berlin on May 1, 1945).

According to Manning, "eventually, over 10,000 former German military made it to South America along escape routes ODESSA and Deutsche Hilfsverein…" (page 181.) While in Manning ODESSA itself is incidental, the continuing existence of the Bormann Organization is a much larger and more menacing fact.

List of Nazis who escaped using ODESSA

Many Ex-Nazis war criminals managed to escape using ODESSA.

* Belgian Léon Degrelle
* Adolf Eichmann
* Aribert Heim, aka "Dr.Death"
* Josef Mengele
* Erich Priebke
* Walter Rauff
* Paul Schäfer

Hier noch ein paar Links von der Seite:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040130.html

http://ukinet.com/congress.htm

http://hist.academic.claremontmckenn...rmathintro.htm

GA
kapl

21.05.2006, 10:22	#26
kapl Landesfürst Registriert seit: Aug 2002 Ort: NRW. Ruhrstadt Essen. Kulturhaupstadt 2010 Beiträge: 719	Wir wollten doch zum Thema zurück? ( ohne "moralischen" Duden!) Sind diese Links aus der Wiki englisch schon bekannt? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA ) History According to Simon Wiesenthal, ODESSA was set up in 1946 to aid fugitive Nazis. Other sources, such as many interviews by the ZDF German TV station with former SS men, suggest that ODESSA never was the single world-wide secret organization that Wiesenthal described, but that there were several organizations, both overt and covert (including the CIA and several Latin American governments), that helped ex-SS men. To some extent whether ODESSA was a criminal conspiracy that protected and smuggled out war criminals or an informal network by which various German and Allied elements protected useful former SS anti-communists from war crimes charges is purely a matter of viewpoint since, short of finding a genuine documentary constitution for it, any facts or actions would fit both descriptions equally. Long before the ZDF TV network, biographer Gitta Sereny wrote in her 1974 book Into that Darkness (see References below) that the ODESSA network was of minor importance if it existed at all. She attributed the fact that several criminal SS-men could escape due to the post war chaos and the lack of means of the Catholic Church, the Red Cross and the American military to verify the claims of people who came to them for help or were imprisoned. She also wrote that one pro-German bishop called Aloïs Hudal in Rome who knowingly helped several ex-SS men to escape out of Europe must have had some help or permission from other people in the church hierarchy. One of the ex-SS men that he helped is the former commander of the extermination camp at Treblinka, Franz Stangl. Uki Goñi, in his 2002 book The Real Odessa: Smuggling the Nazis to Perón's Argentina (see References) suggests that Sereny's more complex, less conspiratorial, story is closer to the real truth. The book prompted a US House of Representatives resolution in 2003, urging Argentina to open their hitherto secret documents concerning this matter. Of particular importance in examining the postwar activities of high-ranking Nazis is Paul Manning's book Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile (Lyle Stuart, Inc., 1980, ISBN 0-8184-0309-8, also available online), which details Martin Bormann's rise to power through the Nazi Party and as Hitler's Chief of Staff. During the war, Manning himself was a correspondent for the fledgling CBS News along with Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite in London, and his reporting and subsequent researches present Bormann's cunning and skill in the organization and planning for the flight of Nazi-controlled capital from Europe during the dimming years of the war (notwithstanding the possibility of Bormann's death in Berlin on May 1, 1945). According to Manning, "eventually, over 10,000 former German military made it to South America along escape routes ODESSA and Deutsche Hilfsverein…" (page 181.) While in Manning ODESSA itself is incidental, the continuing existence of the Bormann Organization is a much larger and more menacing fact. List of Nazis who escaped using ODESSA Many Ex-Nazis war criminals managed to escape using ODESSA. * Belgian Léon Degrelle * Adolf Eichmann * Aribert Heim, aka "Dr.Death" * Josef Mengele * Erich Priebke * Walter Rauff * Paul Schäfer Hier noch ein paar Links von der Seite: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040130.html http://ukinet.com/congress.htm http://hist.academic.claremontmckenn...rmathintro.htm GA kapl __________________ (vorerst) nur noch lesend. Schreibend? Woanders! Wo? pn!