2. April-Woche 1945 Hannover - Suche Infos!

[Eisenschwein]

Ok, dann will ich mal:

Papierform:
Krieg in der Heimat von U. Saft
Endkampf zwischen Rhein und Weser von div.
Schwere Jagdpanzer von J. Spielberger
Das Gesicht des Krieges im Landkreis Verden von div.
diverse Eigene Unterlagen...(von Verkehrsvereinen, Stadtarchiven usw.)

Internet:

http://www.5ad.org

http://perso.wanadoo.fr

http://web.library.uiuc.edu

http://www.gutenberg-e.org

sowie diverse Forenbeiträge

Ich hoffe ich habe nichts vergessen, aber trotzdem keine Garantie auf Vollzähligkeit. Leider habe ich nicht mehr alle Links präsent, sorry (aber Google hilft).

[Muhns]

Prima, besten Dank.
Hatte noch eine weitere Quelle vermutet, ansonsten siehe PN.

Gruß
MUHNS

[Oelfuss]

Danke für die Ergänzung!

[Schnitzel]

Hallo niemandsland,

ich habe das gleiche Problem mit Hannover, vielleicht können wir uns da zusammen tun.

Kann n´mir einmal den neuen Link für die Map mal einstellen, der alte funtz nich mehr.

Gruß Schnitzel

[Eisenschwein]

Karte ??

@Schnitzel: Welche Map ???

[Schnitzel]

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~ammem_UxGx::


Karte oben links anklicken, dann die Karten 4-9.April 1945 vergrößern und dann hast Du (hoffentlich) alles was das Herz begehrt

Grüße

Cisco

Hallo Eisenschwein,

diesen Link / Map meine ich.

Danke Schnitzel

[cisco]

Nimm den

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/gmdhome.html

dann auf "Military Battles", weiter "Additional Military Battles...", dann die Nr.4 auf der Liste und nun einfach die Karte anklicken, dann erscheint eine Übersicht aller Karten.

Gruß

Cisco

[niemandsland]

@ Cisco

Super Link! -Danke-

Weiß irgendwer ob es noch irgendwo Detail-(Lage)karten der einzelnen US Divisionen gibt? Mich interessiert ganz besonders die 84. US-Division im Raum Nienburg/Hannover/Braunschweig zwischen dem 7.-14. April 1945.

Wer sich ebenfalls für den nördlichen Teil Deutschlands (und hier insbesondere für Niedersachsen) interessiert, dem möchte ich noch das Buch "Dear Captain at al" von Allan Wilford Howerton ans Herz legen. Ist zwar in englisch Verfasst, enthält aber ganz gute Infos.

-- LINK --

-NL-

[Schnitzel]

WOW @CISCO,

vielen Dank habe wieder etwas für meine Familienforschung gefunden.

Danke Schnitzel

[cisco]

hier findest Du einen Haufen links und Literatur zur 84.

http://www.geocities.com/soldierboy440/railsplitters

Eine eigene "history" - Seite der 84. scheint es nicht zu geben. Die verweisen, was den 2.WK anbelangt, auf diesen link.

Gruß

Cisco

[niemandsland]

Da einige Menschen offensichtlich doch an der 84th. US-Division Interesse haben, hier mal ein paar Fakten, die ich bisher ermitteln konnte. Vieles stammt davon von Seiten der US-Armee. Insbesondere die Statistiken sind aus folgender Quelle entnommen (und aufbereitet):

ORDER OF BATTLE OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY, WORLD WAR II, EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS, DIVISIONS, OFFICE OF THE THEATER HISTORIAN, Paris, France -- December 1945

Anmerkung:
Es wurden bisher hauptsächlich Internet-Quellen verwendet!

84th INFANTRY DIVISION

"Railsplitter Division" --//-- "Lincoln Division"

During World War I the 84th Division was referred to as the "Lincoln" division because it was primarily made up of National Guard [i.e., National Army] units from Illinois, Kentucky, and Indiana--the Lincoln states. Its original insignia was a red ax on a white background within a red circle, with the name "Lincoln" above the ax and the number "84" below it. The present insignia consists of a white ax splitting a white rail on a red circular background. Both insignias recall President Lincoln's youthful use of the ax. With the addition of a split rail, the division adopted the new nickname of "Railsplitters".

COMMAND AND STAFF

Commanding General: ...................... Maj. Gen. Alexander R. Bolling
------------------------------------> Grave at Arlington
Assistant Division Commander: .......... Brig. Gen. John H. Church
Artillery Commander ........................ Brig. Gen. Charles J. Barrett
Chief of Staff ................................. Col. L. W. Truman
Assistant Chief of Staff G-1 .............. Lt. Col. Hilmar A. Pressler
Assistant Chief of Staff G-2 .............. Lt. Col. Donald W. Coons
Assistant Chief of Staff G-3 .............. Lt. Col. Ole W. Danielson
Assistant Chief of Staff G-4 .............. Lt. Col. James E. Channon
Assistant Chief of Staff G-5 .............. Maj. Frank E. Green
Adjutant General ............................. Lt. Col. Bertie E. Craig
Commanding Officer, 333d Infantry ..... Lt. Col. Lloyd H. Gomes
Commanding Officer, 334th Infantry .... Col. Charles E. Hoy
Commanding Officer, 335th Infantry .... Col. Hugh C. Parker

Anmerkung:
Hier wurden nur die Daten der Personen berücksichtigt, die um den 10. April 1945 (+/- 7 Tage) für die entsprechende Position zuständig waren. -NL-

STATISTICS

Chronology

Activated ........................................ 15-10-1942
Arrived ETO ..................................... 01-10-1944
Arrived Continent (D+158) .................. 01-11-1944
Entered Combat--First Elements .......... 09-11-1944
Entered Combat--Entire Division .......... 18-11-1944
Days in Combat ................................ 152

Casualties (Tentative)

Killed .............................................. 1,235
Wounded ........................................ 4,486
Missing ........................................... 416
Captured ........................................ 424
Battle Casualties .............................. 6,561
Non-Battle Casualties ........................ 3,250
Total Casualties ............................... 9,811
Percent of T/O Strength .................... 69.6

Campaigns

Ardennes, Rhineland, Central Europe

Individual Awards

Distinguished Service Cross ................. 18
Legion of Merit .................................. 4
Silver Star ........................................ 598
Soldiers Medal ................................... 40
Bronze Star ...................................... 3,416
Air Medal ......................................... 59

Prisoners of War Taken ....................... 70,109

COMPOSITION

333d Infantry
334th Infantry
335th Infantry

84th Reconnaissance Troop (Mechanized)
309th Engineer Combat Battalion
309th Medical Battalion
84th Division Artillery

325th Field Artillery Battalion (105mm Howitzer)
326th Field Artillery Battalion (105mm Howitzer)
327th Field Artillery Battalion (155mm Howitzer)
909th Field Artillery Battalion (105mm Howitzer)

Special Troops

784th Ordnance Light Maintenance Company
84th Quartermaster Company
84th Signal Company

Military Police Platoon

Headquarters Company

Band


ATTACHMENTS

- Antiaircraft Artillery -

557th AAA AW Bn (Mbl) 2 Feb 45-9 May 44 [i.e., 45]

Armored

771st Tk Bn 2 Apr 45-30 Jun 45

Chemical

Co C, 3d Cml Mort Bn 22 Mar 45-14 Apr 45
Co B, 3d Cml Mort Bn 30 Mar 45-14 Apr 45
3d Cml Mort Bn 19 Apr 45-3 May 45

Engineer

1st Plat, 989th Engr Treadway Br Co 6 Apr 45

Field Artillery

280th FA Bn (105mm How) 2 Apr 45-29 Apr 45

DETACHMENTS

(Attached to)

Infantry

1st Bn, 334th Inf 5th Armd Div 13 Apr 45-16 Apr 45
1st Bn, 335th Inf 5th Armd Div 17 Apr 45-18 Apr 45
2d Bn, 335th Inf 102d Div 18 Apr 45-23 Apr 45

COMMAND POSTS

DATE .... TOWN/REGION/COUNTRY
01-10-44 Winchester, Hampshire, England
01-11-44 Omaha Beach, Calvados, France
04-11-44 Colleville, Manche, France
10-11-44 Gulpen, Limburg, Netherlands
16-11-44 Eygelshoven, Limburg, Netherlands
23-11-44 Palenberg, Rhineland, Germany
21-11-44 Marche, Luxembourg, Belgium
23-12-44 Baillonville, Luxembourg, Belgium
02-01-45 Barvaux, Luxembourg, Belgium
11-01-45 Blier, Luxembourg, Belgium
21-01-45 Ottre, Luxembourg, Belgium
27-01-45 Harze, Luxembourg, Belgium
03-02-45 Waubach, Limburg, Netherlands
09-02-45 Lindern, Rhineland, Germany
01-03-45 Wegburg, Rhineland, Germany
04-03-45 Dulken, Rhineland, Germany
05-03-45 Krefeld, Rhineland, Germany
02-04-45 Lembeck, Westphalia, Germany
04-04-45 Appelhulsen, Westphalia, Germany
05-04-45 Warendorf, Westphalia, Germany
06-04-45 Herford, Westphalia, Germany
08-04-45 Lerbeck, Westphalia, Germany
09-04-45 Bad Nenndorf, Westphalia, Germany
11-04-45 Hannover, Hannover, Germany
12-04-45 Burgdorf, Hannover, Germany
14-04-45 Beetzendorf, Hannover, Germany
15-04-45 Arendsee, Magdeburg, Germany
17-04-45 Priemern, Magdeburg, Germany
05-05-45 Salzwedel, Magdeburg, Germany

TYPE OF DIVISION: Organized Reserve.

NICKNAME: Railsplitters. (In WWI the division was known as the “Lincoln Division” because it first trained in KY, and because it drew much of its personnel from KY and IL, in which states Lincoln began his political career. The name was changed to Railsplitters in this war as the shoulder patch symbolizes this occupation of Lincoln as a young man.

SHOULDER PATCH: Patch consists of a red disc on which, in white, an axe is shown splitting a rail. The original insignia was a red ax on a white background within a red circle, with the name Lincoln above and the number 84 below the ax

HISTORY: The division was organized in August 1917, at Camp Taylor, KY. The division was depleted from time to time to fill up other organizations. In June 1918, however, it was transferred to Camp Sherman OH and was brought up to authorized strength. The 84th went overseas in Sep and Oct 1918 where it was broken up to provide replacements for combat units at the front. Headquarters of the 84th and the permanent cadres were returned to the US in January 1919, at which time the division was demobilized.

ACTIVATION DATE: 15-10-1942.
INACTIVATION DATE: 24-01-1946, Camp Kilmer, New Jersey..

COMPONENT UNITS: 333rd, 334th and 335th Inf Regts; 84th Cav Rcn Tp (Mecz); 309th Engr Combat Bn, 309th Med Bn. Div Arty: 325th, 326th and 909th FA Bns (105 How) and 327th FA Bn (155 How). Sp Tps: 84th QM Co, 84th Sig Co, 784th Ord Co (LM), Hq Co, MP Plat and Band.

TRAINING UNDER ARMY GROUND FORCES: The division trained first at Camp Howze, Texas coming under the X Corps of the Third Army. In September 1943, it went to the Louisiana Maneuver Area to take part in eight weeks of large-scale war games under the Third Army. The 84th was transferred to Camp Clairborne, Louisiana in November 1943

DEPARTED U.S. FOR FOREIGN DUTY: 20 September 1944.

OVERSEAS TRAINING: Division trained in England for a month prior to going to the continent. Use and detection of land mines was emphasized.

DATE ENTERED COMBAT: DIVISION 18 November 1944 FIRST ELEMENTS 9 November 1944

COMBAT DAYS (DIV): 152

BATTLE CREDITS: (Division) Rhineland, Ardennes, Central Europe.

RETURNED TO US: 19 January 1946.

SUCCESSIVE COMMANDING GENERALS: Major General John H Hildring from Oct 192 to Feb 1943; Major General Stonewall Jackson from February to October 1943; Major General Robert L Mc Clure from Oct 1943 to March 1944; major General Roscoe B Woodruff from March to June 1944; Major General Alexander R Bolling from June 1944 to inactivation...

DISTINGUISHED UNIT CITATIONS: .326th FA Bn, Cannon Company, 334th Inf, 3rd Bn, 334th Infantry, 1st Bn, 334th Inf for 23 Feb - 5 Mar action in Germany; Company G, 334th Infantry for 23 – 28 Feb 1945 for action in Germany; and Company K, 335th Inf for 29 Nov – 2 Dec 1944 action at Siegfried, Germany.

CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR WINNERS: FOREIGN AWARDS:

COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS: The 84th landed in France in November 1944 and was immediately sent into Holland. Jutting out into allied lines was the enemy salient at Geilenkirchen, an anchor of the Siegfried Line. The 84th fought its way into Geilenkirchen by November and then went on to take Lindern and a succession of towns which were stubbornly defended by the enemy. By 18 December the 84th had captured both Wurm and Mullendorf, two strong points of the Siegfried Line defenses. On 21 December the division turned its attention to Belgium and the job of halting von Runstedt’s winter offensive. The 84th gathered in and around Marche and began bitter days and nights of fighting in sub-zero weather, The enemy was strong and this was his all-out effort, but the 84th held, secured its ground and then lashed out against the Germans. On 3 January 1945, the division, along with the 2nd Armored Division, attacked the enemy in the snow, sleet and rain. Where tanks could not get through the Infantry had to push on alone. By night the woods above Odeigne had been cleared out. On 4 January, Deffe fell to the 84th and then Devantage and Magoster. The 84th couldn’t be stopped; it smashed on. Early in Feb the division took up positions along the Roer River crossing the river on 23 Feb. Kerrenzig fell and then in rapid succession, Baal, Matzerath, Hoven and Gelkrath were taken by the division. Rolling on the 84th cleared up Krefeld and then started the drive to the Rhine. The division moved from the Roer to the Rhine in ten days. In Mar it began to assist the XVI Corps in preparations for the Rhine crossing. The crossing came the later part of Mar and in Apr the division began driving ahead once again, this time with the Elbe River as its objective. On 10 Apr, the division took Hannover and 4 days later broke through German resistance to reach the Elbe. Climax of the drive was the meeting with Russian units across the river. In 128 days of combat the 84th took more than 70,000 prisoners. The division remained in Germany after V-E Day, and was inactivated upon its return to the United States in Jan 1946.

These Army Ground Forces Fact Sheets were prepared at the end of the war (1 March 1947) by The Information Section, Analysis Branch, Headquarters Army Ground Forces on each division. They may be found in Record Group 407, Unit Records, for each division, under the file number 3 (Division #) - 0 at the National Archives and Records Administration, 8601 Adelphi Rd, College Park MD.

[Books about the 84th Division]

WORLD WAR II

Draper, Theodore. "Battle in the Bulge." Inf Jrnl 56 (May 1945): pp. 8-17. Per.

_____. The 84th Infantry Division in the Battle of the Ardennes, December 1944-January 1945. n.p., 1945. 55p. #05-84.1945.

_____. The 84th Infantry Division in the Battle of Germany, November 1944-May 1945. Nashville, TN: Battery Pr, 1985. 273 p. #05-84.1946.1985r.

"The History of the 84th Division." Booklet, 1965? 49 p. #05-84.1965.
Covers up to 1965.

History of the 84th Division. Paducah, KY: Turner Pub Co, 1988. 128 p. 305-84.1988.

Roster of Officers and Enlisted Men: 84th Infantry Division, European Theater of Operations,
World War II. NY: viking, 1946. 140 p. #05-84.1946/2.

Stanton, Shelby L. Order of Battle, U.S. Army, World War II. Novato, CA: Presidio, 1984, pp.
155-56. UA25.5S767.1984.

U.S. Army. ETO. Order of Battle of the United States Army, World War II: European Theater of
Operations, Divisions. Paris: 1945. pp. 301-09. D767U52.

_____. Railsplitters. Paris: Curial-Archereau, 1945? 32 p. #05-84.1945/2.

U.S. Department of Army. Hist Div. Combat Chronicle: An Outline History of U.S. Army
Divisions. Wash, DC: 1948. p. 69. #05-1948/2.

Verwendete Quellen:
[INTERNET] http://www.army.mil/
[INTERNET] http://www.valourandhorror.com/DB/BA..._inv_sites.htm
[INTERNET] http://www.battleofthebulge.org/fact..._infantry.html
[INTERNET] http://www.geocities.com/soldierboy4...Resources.html
[INTERNET] http://www.trailblazersww2.org/central_europe.htm
[INTERNET] http://www.geocities.com/soldierboy440/railsplitters
[INTERNET] http://www.geocities.com/soldierboy4...ion_Links.html
[INTERNET] http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/abolling.htm
[INTERNET][BOOK] Mr. Howertons Book: "Dear Captain, et aL" http://www2.xlibris.com/bookstore/bo...sp?bookid=1001
...oder via Amazon: --LINK--

Ich bin immer an weiterführenden Infos (insbesondere über die drei 333..5 US Infantrie Regimenter) interessiert. Besonders was die Aktivitäten im Raum Region/Stadt Hannover betrifft.

-NL-

[niemandsland]

Interessant sein könnte auch dieses Forum:

K335 Inf 84th. Division

Über dieses Forum sind recht gute Kontakte entstanden, so z.B. zu Veteranen in die USA; aber auch zu US GIs stationiert in Deutschland. In diesem Forum findet man auch den Autor des Buchs "Dear Captain, et al." (!). Ein wirklich netter Mensch, der mir schon diverse Informationen gegeben hat. Leider nervt die Werbung dort etwas.

-NL-

[niemandsland]

@ Cisco

Danke für den Link. Den kannte ich aber schon. Die meisten Seiten die in den Suchmaschinen stehen, hab ich schon besucht. Bin an dem Thema ja bereits seit einigen Wochen dran. Find es aber echt super, das Du dir so eine Mühe machst. --DANKE--

Aber die Seite ist wirklich gut. Und auch die Foren!

Über das Forum der 335'ten hab ich auch per Mail die z.T. sehr detailierten Aufzeichnungen einiger Angehöriger der 84. Division (334/335 I.-Reg.) erhalten, wo auch z.B. die Anfrage wegen Weetzen drauf beruht.

-NL-

[Eisenschwein]

Super Quellenangabe
Leider hat sich mein Hauptrechner zerlegt, deshalb dauert auch der Auftrit der 84th länger als geplant...........leider
Aber ich bleibe am Ball.....